Hal Lohr and Shankar Singam are co-hosts of the Red Star Report podcast. I sat down to talk with them about how they became activists for California independence, where they see the current state of the country, and what path they think California needs to take for itself into the future. This interview was recorded on July 10, 2021. NOTES: 1. "About Us", Red Star Report; https://redstarreport.com/about-us/ 2. Red Star Report YouTube channel; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsn4e5uimQQGu1sALUvjXcw MUSIC CREDIT: 1. "Sexy Sneaky Cool Groove", by PhilLarson; elements.envato.com IMAGE CREDITS: 1. Hal Lohr, used with permission 2. Shankar Singam, used with permission